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Episode 010 – Incarnation Cross

Dana: And it’s, it’s pretty interesting because, well, let’s just say, you know, people want to know what their purpose is, and incarnation cross can help with figuring it out, figuring out what it is you’re here to do.

Hali: Okay. Is it like your life path?

Dana: Well, sort of,

Human Design reveals who you are, energetically and who you came here to be. I’m Dana, the Human Design specialist

Hali: and I’m Hali the Human Design newbie. Listen in, as we explore how leaning into your authentic self is your ultimate path to success today, we’re diving into

Dana: incarnation cross.

So you wanted to announce something special here.

Hali: Yeah. We’re in the same room,

Dana: we’re in the same room. It took a minor miracle to get our recording equipment to work.

Hali: It’s still kind of shoddy.

Dana: Luckily tech support was in the other room, helping us out.

Hali: Shout out to Presley.

Dana: Thank you. He had to come in and use his line three to figure everything out.

See what worked, what it wasn’t working and

Hali: Google

Dana: didn’t work for us at all. But yes. So incarnation cross today. Oh, let’s talk about why we’re in the same room. Oh yeah. Why are we in the same?

Hali: Uh, that’s a good question.

Dana: Why are we in the same room?

Hali: We’re in the same room because I am in town for my cousin wedding.

Dana: Yes. Which has been fun so far.

Hali: We haven’t been to the, we went to the rehearsal dinner. Yes. We’re recording mid wedding. I

Dana: I had some downtime in between ceremonies. So we’re doing the, Saturday morning record here before the big big event. So congratulations to Andrew and Megan who will probably never hear this podcast.

Megan might. She might. It’s pretty cool. So not to say Andrew isn’t I don’t think it’s, I don’t, I don’t think it’s his jam.

Hali: No, but, so what is an incarnation cross?

Dana: What is an incarnationCross? Well, okay, so you hear about it. Sometimes people will refer to it, maybe not right away, but when you first get your, Bodygraph, , it’ll say incarnation cross on there, and it just gives you a name and it’ll say like RAX something and, or LAX something or JX something.

And it’s, it’s pretty interesting because, well, let’s just say, you know, people want to know what their purpose is, and incarnation cross can help with figuring it out, figuring out what it is you’re here to do.

Hali: Okay. Is it like your life path?

Dana: Well, sort of, so when you look at the Human Design system, like there’s three main elements that can really, kind of condense it down for you really quick and in a way.

So we’ve talked about type, right. And we know that type is like the role you play, the energetic role, whether you’re responder initiator guide.

Hali: And that’s like the generator projector, that one.

Dana: Yeah. and then we looked at profile, which is. Character role

Hali: it’s your numbers.

Dana: Yeah. Those are your profile lines. So that’s so like if you’re a generator, but you are a one-three generator, that means you’re here to, you know, respond to things, but you also are one that really needs to investigate, through research and everything else.

And then try it out the line three, the experimenter. Uh, so that’s your, how you do it. And then the incarnation cross is like the plot outline of the story.

Hali: Gotcha.

Dana: Sure. you do.

Well, you

Hali: said plot. I know what that is.

Dana: So cross points to, uh, which you may just hear me say cross incarnation cross. It was a long phrase, but cross points to, the story of your purpose.

And Ra Uru Hu,, when he first talked about cross was saying, it was kind of like the job description. It’s, it’s what you’re here to, to bring what your, well, I say job description, description, job, description of your aura, basically of your energetic signature, what it’s here to bring. And so it’s an energetic theme that you carry that serves the other, and it’s energetic gifts that you bring to the planet, because this is what we’re talking about.

Anyhow, all of it, but this is like a condensed down, like a little plot outline, energy,

Hali: Like the high level .

Dana: And so what’s interesting that it crosses not anything that you need to do. Like a lot of this stuff in Human Design, it’s giving you that blueprint. It’s giving you the framework of what you’re looking at, but depending on how you choose to, live out your life, your energy using your energy or the experiences of things that happened to you, all these things come into play.

You’re not like you’re never going to fail being, you’re getting incarnation cross. You’re either going to be in an expression of it.

You know, like we talked about with other things, a higher expression, lower expression, whether you’re leaning into your gifts or, or hanging out more in the shadow. So people might think that you have to do something to start embodying your incarnation cross, but you really don’t. It’s just what you do.

Hali: Is it just being more aware of. It helps.

Dana: Well, yeah. So it’s really about, if you look at which we’re going to talk about just a second, what makes up your incarnation cross? It really helps give you something to focus on to know what the high level themes of your whole chart is all about.

And so a lot of times when you start looking at the overall chart, because there’s so much information in there and you can pick things out, you know, which is why they start at the high level with the generalities of type profile and everything. Because then when you get into the gates, if you try to just pull like one gate out, it’s not the whole story.

It’s just a little piece, a little layer.

Hali: It’s a little puzzle piece to the whole puzzle.

Dana: But I think a lot of times when you look at incarnation cross, it’s kind of the theme that everything is pointing towards in your chart. Okay. So what is it? Okay, so basically it’s the functioning, it’s the expression of your four most prominent gates, which do you know what those would be?

Hali: The unconscious sun and Earth and conscious

Dana: yes. All four of them. That’s right. So basically that means if you’re looking at your chart, it’s on the black and on the red side is the top two numbers. So it’s four numbers. So in my case, I’m a conscious gate, 14 sun gate, 8 earth, and then on the unconscious side.

And then on the conscious side gate, 59 sun gate, 55 earth. So it’s these four numbers. So whatever they are, and that’s how you’ll read it too. When you read your cross, it it’s, it is specific. So what that means is that my incarnation cross would read if you’re looking at the gate numbers 14/8 then then comma 59/55.

So. Mine’s going to be a little different, which we’ll find out why, because I’m a, 4/1, I know I gotta be special, so unique.

Hali: I don’t remember the numbers you said for your conscious and your unconscious. So when you just listed them, which ones were, which

Dana: the conscious is the 14/8

Hali: okay.

Dana: Unconscious 59/55.

Hali: Okay.

Dana: And so, and, and for you, so mine is a juxtaposition cross of empowerment and yours. You are conscious sun and earth. So conscious 63 side on the right. No, black is on the right. You had red on the right? No. Left on the left. Red on the left, black on the right

Hali: left on red,

Dana: Yes. Looking at your chart on the right hand side is going to be the black numbers

Hali: black, which is the conscious

Dana: yes. Which conscious is determined by birth, at birth. And then the other one on the left. If you think about it at birth left, if you look at linear time left would be behind back in time.

Hali: Well, it came before, so it’s on the left.

Exactly. If you believe in linear time. Anyways, of course I do. Okay. So you have on your conscious side, the day you were born, the sun was in gate 63. Earth was in gate 64, three months before you were born 88 astrological degree, the sun was in gate 26.

It moves fast

Dana: and the, earth was in gate 45. Well, the sun goes through a gate every, roughly six days. Oh yeah. So five to six days somewhere in there. Um, it’s not exactly, but, and so the earth is always opposite. They traveled together around the mandala so

Hali: not in the actual solar system.

Dana: No, we covered that before it was okay.

So you have left angle, cross of dominion. So let’s go back. Cause I just wanted to lay that first of all. So you know what numbers you’re looking at. So we’re looking at your sun and earth numbers, gates. And so. How RA, who was the person who channeled and deliver this system to us originally, if you need an overview, go back to episode two.

Hali: Um, it’s a fun one.

Dana: Yeah. So it, you know, it was said that he was a little bit hesitant about introducing cross incarnation cross in the original teachings because he thought people would, you know, they should know a little bit more about the system because cross, he felt wasn’t what he would call personal, because there’s really nothing that you like do about it.

It just is. And so it was more of, well, he called it a transcendent responsibility, meaning that for you to fully express your cross, you really have to be just as authentically you and living in your design, as you, as you were designed to really bring out the full expression of your cross.

Hali: Okay.

Dana: Which makes sense, because you’re talking about, if you look at it from like the shadow and the gift and the, the siddhi perspective, like in the gene keys, how it talks about when you’re in shadow aspects of some of these gate expressions, it means you’re not being authentic.

It means you’re either repressing your energy or your, you know, you’re just kind of reacting to things. You’re not just being yourself. And that’s what the gift means is that you’re just like aligning with the energy that you, you carry not hiding yourself. You’re not, acting from a conditioned response.

You’re just acting as yourself. So he said, it wasn’t so much a higher calling your cross. It was more of a higher doing that’s what. So, RA was worried that the cross would be something that people were trying to achieve or search for which, you know, like a dangled carrot.

It’s like, oh, I’m the cross of empowerment. How can I make it happen?

Hali: So it specifically isn’t something you have to work towards necessarily. It’s just you being your design. You just be, like you said, authentically you, and then you will be living in your incarnation cross.

Dana: Yeah. Because, or the, the real gift that it, that it brings.

And so, the more authentic you are, the more you’re living this energy. So that being said. It’s also kind of, um, once it’s more of a, when you contemplate what these four gate energies together bring to the table, when you contemplate that, if you, you can kind of, it’s almost like a measuring post barometer.

You can also say, Hey, am I really living in the fullest expression of what I came here to bring to the table for everybody else? Because, I do like to mention here that I learned a ton about incarnation cross, uh, through Brynja Magnuson who did this really awesome book about incarnation cross, but she also does these beautiful card decks, uh, about Human Design, uh, which is over there on the shelf.

Hali: And she pointed to the shelf behind me for those not here in the room

Dana: for everybody else. And, uh, she’s in my, my opinion. She’s the expert on incarnation cross. I actually was in a, uh, Masterclass workshop with her once. And, uh, it blew my mind. She just, the way she sees it has really changed because before I would just see it as, um, something I had to be, um, but really just what she, how she broke it down was that cross really serves those around you.

It’s not so much about you. It’s like when you walk in the room, you’re cross walks in the room with you because it’s your energy. And, she also explained that really at certain times in your life throughout, you know, the people we come in contact with are electromagnetics. Like you might notice that the energy that someone else, when they came into your life kind of helped catalyze things in your own life.

If you look back in reflection. So it’s interesting how, what just all this energetic information we’re exchanging all the time, which is not, Things we’re really thinking about doing it’s just happening.

Hali: I’m not thinking like, oh, I’m going to share my energy with you.

Dana: Yeah. Hey, you, you, over there, you look like my energy.

You look like you need some questions.

Hali: I got ya

Dana: I’m coming in.

But so RA would say that the cross is really a potential that exists at birth, but it doesn’t really manifest until you start living their strategy and authority because, you know what, when we keep going back to what happens, how we come into this world, so pure and innocent, and then get, you know, all imprinted upon, and then we gotta dig ourselves back out of the hole.

Hali: So rude.

Dana: But, so you’re not inherently like acting out your cross. I didn’t like come into the world under the cross of empowerment and

Hali: You would’ve been a strong-willed baby.

Dana: Ooh. I can do anything. That’s my mom no. and let’s also say that as you look at your incarnation cross, it does have a name to it that were put on it by RA.

So as we’ve discussed in previous conversations, not always the best words, so no use to describe things.

And so really encourage you to, as you look at your own incarnation cross, Either, you know, have another book like, uh, Karen Curry Parker’s book, she’s got the understanding Human Design. There’s a really good one by a Chetan Parkin book of destinies.

Like if you really want to dig into it a little bit more, he, he has a description of his description of each cross, including if you have a juxtaposition cross, which we’ll talk about just a second,

like I said,

Hali: You special little one,

Dana: but it’s really good to just really contemplate the energies individually of the gates that you carry in your incarnation cross and what that means to you, of how they all kind of come together.

Hali: How many are there?

Dana: Well, that’s what we’re going to talk about next. I was going to talk about another thing but let’s just go into them

always right

on it. So yes. So the. Right. Angle, cross left angle cross, juxtaposition cross. You’re going to have one of those three crosses. So it’ll say RAX, LAX, or JX. . So what are they?

So

Hali: airplane codes, airport codes. One is lax.

Dana: So there are 196.

Hali: Wow.

Dana: Right? I think it’s a hundred ninety six ninety two, one of those. Anyways, I thought that includes all the incarnation cross, but I’m going to break it down because it does, it is tied to profile as well. You’ll see why in a second, but, so it tells you like profile does, if your going to your cross is more, a self-development focused or more interpersonal meaning with other people, right?

If it’s, whether it’s personal or interactive in a way. So the right angle crosses are the personal profiles. So that means that they are more focused on personal development, self development and your personal journey. So these profiles that will contain a right angle, cross are going to be the 1/3, the 1/4,, the 2/4, 3/5, 3/6, and 4/6.

. So this is 64%.

Hali: Feels like all of them

Dana: it’s not is 64% of the population has a right angle cross. And these are the, I guess, the self, uh, more self-focused self-development. So the inward your personal journey. So there are 16, right angle crosses total. So what does that tell you? I told you it was 64% of the population

Hali: you’re asking me to do math

I’m not

Dana: it’s just to say, well, it’s a large part of the population. There’s only 16 of them. So they must occur a lot in the year because it is depending on, you know, when in the year you were born.

They are 16 of them always linked to those first profiles, the, the lower trigram and, they each right angle cross occurs four times a year. It’s active four times a year. So although they are the fewest in name, there’s only 16 of them for two most they’re the most common ones. What’d you say?

Hali: It said four times four 16. I don’t know where the other four came from.

Dana: Okay. So like I was saying, they are the fewest in number and name. There’s only 16 of them, but they are the most common crosses. And so some examples of them that you might have heard some, maybe not you, or maybe listener has heard them, uh, like the right angle cross of explanation, the sleeping Phoenix. You hear that on a lot. Uh, the vessel of love, uh, the Sphinx, the cross of tension cross a planning, cross a rulership, Maya. These are all you probably going to hear these most commonly when people talk.

Hali: So the 16 is a part of the 196.

Okay.

Dana: Yeah. So, if you have a right angle incarnation cross, these are, uh, people that are creators of, of karma, action research experience. It’s all with the focus of knowing themselves in their own life process, better,

Hali: like you said, inward.

Dana: Yeah. So it’s almost like being that example kind of thing. Cause things that are more self-focused you just do it for yourself and whatever the result is, has its own way of rippling out.

Like you, you know, it’s really an inward journey.

Okay. So a left angle cross, these are going to be tied to the profile lines from the upper trigram, the first number, the five and four five and the six. There’s 32 left angle crosses, which is 34% of the population.

And these are going to be again, like I said, linked to those latter profiles, the five and the six. Uh, so those are the 5/1, the 5/2, 6/2 and the 6/3 okay. Yes. That’s you. So, um, these are people that are deeply connected to others because it’s through their connections, that their impact kind of manifests.

People with left angle crosses deep friendships, as well as chance encounters and temporary meetings have just as much impact because it’s interacting with the other, whether it’s for a lifetime or a chance encounter or whatever it’s important.

Um, because the people they come in contact with help them become aware of how their purpose is fulfilled. What?

Hali: I just, I have, I don’t know why I still remember this, but we were at a bar and I was up at the bar, I think getting water. And I had on like a little, not a Jean jacket, but it was like a kind of Jean looking just like shirt and then like resting my arms on the bar, waiting for the bartender.

And this guy comes up beside me and he’s like, oh, we’re wearing the same shirt. And I’m like, cool. And then that was all I said was. And I don’t know why that memory stuck in my head. Cause then he just kinda like bobbed his head and turned around

Dana: chance encounter.

See, it’s stuck in your head. Who knows?

Maybe your cross told him to, Hey, let’s not use that approach again.

Hali: I was telling her, no, it’s not the right approach.

Dana: So if you have a left angle cross, you know that you are going to interaction with others is going to help you, um, more fulfill your part, which makes sense because you know, the line five. Is, you know, the, even though in traditional the heretic, but is the visionary leader, this is leadership energy people look to the line5 for, for guidance and also aline 6,, the role model, someone who does have the experience that is here.

So both of those profiles are about, finding the right people and helping guide them. So it makes sense. So the, um, the left angle crosses that, like I said, there’s a, how did I say, oh yeah, there’s 32 of them. Did I say that? Okay. So that means, uh, these crosses are active two times a year. So even though there’s more crosses, there’s 32 of them.

There’s they’re half as common as a right angle cross.

Hali: Yeah. The math checks out.

Dana: Perfect. Right. Okay. So some examples of the left angle crosses that some of the names you might’ve heard across the Clarion cross, a defiance friend of mine’s cross it, defiance dominion, which is you cross minion healing industry,

Hali: Industry?

Yeah. Actually

healing and industry are two separate ones?

Dana: I was going to clarify that, um, uh, some other ones may have heard of masks. I think my mom was a cross of masks, revolution, upheaval and wishes. Those are just some examples. There’s a bunch of them.

Hali: Some of those are great names.

Dana: And so now we come to the juxtaposition cross because if you were writing

it down or paying.

Hali: It’s 98% so far

Thank you.

Dana: Very good. Oh, you were paying attention

Hali: I did my maths

Dana: well, what I was going to say is you notice that it left out the one profile, which is the 4/1, which if you are

Hali: Is it the only one that the juxtaposition

Dana: is the only one.

Hali: Oh my gosh. Why you gotta to be so special?

Dana: 2% of the population.

So if you’re a 4/1, you know you have a juxtaposition cross. If you have a juxtaposition cross, you know, you’re a 4/1, there’s no other way.

Hali: Apples and oranges are the same.

Dana: There are 64 juxtaposition crosses.

Hali: Good grief..

Yeah. So

Dana: a lot of times people might talk about those.

Hali: They just kept doubling.

Dana: Yeah.

Hali: Uh, really makes me happy. I like things when they , I like things when they’re even, and they work out.

Dana: so they say that with this, this profile and these crosses they’re referred to as the bridge in between the left and the right angle, cross and profiles

Hali: juxtaposition.

Dana: Yeah. So they are neither personal nor transpersonal.

They have qualities of both. So we recently discovered that I think we talked about in this previous episode that my sister is also a 4/1. So 4/1, and the juxtaposition cross is supposed to be very, uh, more rare profile. But, uh, my sister’s one I’m one. And then I just was reintroduced to my friend being one the other day, I realized that Larissa is a 4/1 as well.

And so it’s 2% of the population. There is a three hour window in, uh, these cycles where you can be a juxtaposition cross, because it basically is when it’s switching over, um, gates, sun gates yeah. From one to the other. And there’s this little window of time that if you’re born within it, cause it’s not always the same.

Hali: but it’s always a three hour window when it’s switching. Yeah. But you say it’s not the same, like it’s not the same throughout a year.

Dana: Yes, I think so. So that being said, the 4/1 juxtaposition cross,

I said to have more of a fixed fate, meaning that, um, this alignment between the personal and interpersonal, they have a certain role, um, that they’re locked into.

So.

I recently had a discussion with someone about this as well of how the, the there’s a lot of fixedness about the 4/1, because it’s those two foundational things. And, um, they say, if you are 4/1, you really have to look at the theme of your conscious sun gate. And this has a lot to do with what your role here is.

It’s going to be around that one thing. So there’s only 2% of us out there listening that are juxtaposition. So I don’t have to go to too much. You can, if you have questions, you can always like DM on Instagrammer sent me an email it’s in the show notes. But, um, anyways,

let’s go on to something else. Yes.

So I want to go back to, type and cross. Because remember we said that if you are really living your authentic expression, your cross really gets to shine.

Yeah. You do its job basically. And so we say that really the first thing to living true to yourself and your design is to live your type, you type through strategy and authority and your authority. Correct. So that would say that if you are a generator type, so that’s generator manifesting generator, that would mean that you, what is the Strategy Hali?

Hali: Emotional..

Dana: no, strategy strategy to change.

Hali: I don’t remember. You said strategy and authority. And I was like, shit, I don’t remember which one

Dana: The strategy of a generator type is to

Hali: wait to respond.

Dana: Thank you. Correct. Cause it’s using that sacral response. They to respond

right.

Yeah. So you’re more likely to, um, manifest through following your sacral response because it’s only leading you towards things that light you up because there is that yes or no to it, but it’s really, you’re supposed to just kind of leave the “no’s” behind and just follow the yeses and you don’t always know what it’s leading you to, but it is leading you step by step by step.

So, and I think that’s one of the scariest things for the generator types is not knowing where they’re being led, which is why we

Hali: especially if

Dana: you

Hali: have line 1 in you

Dana: Yeah. So we tend to like ignore that. We were taught to always know what’s going to happen, plan out what’s going to happen, but a generator is not supposed to do that.

They’re just supposed to follow the response, see what happens. And so if they are following their sacral it will be their guide to lead them to the circumstances where their cross is really needed. So it is really that. That guiding factor of like, follow this, follow that, follow this, follow that. And it will always lead you to the right place.

Okay. It might not be obvious why you’re being brought to these places, but somewhere down the line, they, um, they’re needed

Hali: just, you gotta trust it.

Dana: they just have to follow that sacral response and trust that it will. Yeah. Like you said, um, and important note here for those generator types response is to something outside of yourself.

Again, it’s not, I think I should do this. I think I should do that. Yes. You may have your own desires or things that you want to happen, but you have to wait for those things in your outer reality that you can actually respond to. Okay.

Hali: Yes. Outside,

Dana: outside. Yes. So if you’re a projector. Yes with your cross, it’ll manifest more easily through being recognized and then invited in,

Hali: Because it’s wait for the invitation.

Dana: And so it’s a, the recognition part is important for the projector because you could be invited into things, but for the wrong reasons, like you’re just there, you know,

Hali: I guess we’ll give you an invite.

Dana: Yeah. They may be inviting you in for, uh, things that aren’t the best use of your energy or your guidance and what you’re to help guide people through.

So if you’re looking at your incarnation cross and the gates and your cross, like with you, your son is in the 63, he was going to be the most prominent, energy throughout your chart, which is. logical circuitry started the logical circuitry up in the head gate. So it is about asking the, you know, what would happen if you know your possibility minded that the questions one, well, the head gates are all questions.

Hali: What is specifically the 63, what

is it called?

Dana: It’s called the gate of doubt.

Hali: That’s lovely.

Dana: But doubt is how you formulate questions about what could happen, because starting at the logical circuitry there, it’s like, what would happen if we did this? It’s starting the experiment. What’s gonna, you know, Start of the process of refining, which is interesting because at the end of that circuitry, we’re going to back to circuitry here at the end of that circuitry or the other end of it, I should say is the gate eight is the gate 58 in the root that connects to the 18, which is judgment, the channel of judgment, which is about refining and getting to what is working.

What’s not working. How could it be better?

Hali: That makes sense that they’re in a circuit.

Dana: That’s right. It’s logical. So, um, so basically for a projector then. Getting a genuine invitation that is recognizing your gifts of what you bring to the table. And what’s important to you and where you shine, because remember, you’re here to guide and manage others, but you’re not here to guide and manage everybody.

Hali: Just the people that want it and recognize how you are.

Dana: Right. Because it’s a waste of your energy if they’re not going to listen. Have you

learned that yet?

Hali: Oh yeah, I’ve been there.

Dana: I mean, you tried to manage your dad about that toaster this morning. It doesn’t work.

Hali: I hate that toaster.

I murdered a bagel trying to get it out of the toaster.

Dana: Yeah. Haley’s dad has an attachment to a toaster

Hali: because it toast bread perfectly. I did it. Just did the, uh,

don’t tell him he’s not going to listen.

Dana: Now, this toaster has like a 20 foot long braided cord

Hali: It’s from like the 1970s.

Dana: It weighs about, I don’t know, 25 pounds.

Hali: It probably is also a murder weapon.

Dana: It’s a horrible

toaster. Nobody likes it, but,

Hali: but it toasts the perfect bread. So I adjusted the temperature knob on it.

Dana: You’ll show him

Hali: I didn’t go all the way, but I did. Yeah.

Dana: I don’t know if that’s really relevant, but anyways, um,

Hali: he didn’t accept my, my management.

Dana: Yeah. So in a perfect, in a perfect world for a projector, not in a perfect world, but in a perfect scenario of an invitation that invitation will come with a, um, hand of support basically for the projector, because, you know, projectors energy is not meant to do the typical nine to five work and work.

And this doesn’t have to be like monetary support, but quite often it is a, an exchange of energy that they recognize that your energy is precious. It needs to be, um, used for a specific purpose in an exchange. So you don’t have to worry about, um, running yourself ragged, you’ll be supported in some way by the person that offers the invitation.

Hali: Gotcha.

Dana: And so that is the clear way for your cross to really shine to, because it is, you know what, you’re here to. The theme of the expression of your life. So

Hali: was that more broad for projector?

Dana: What do you mean?

Hali: Well, you had been talking specifically for mine, but what you just said about the hand of support and

Dana: yeah, because you’ve got to be responding to the right invitations where you’ve been recognized for who you are for the, cause that in that way, your cross will,

Hali: regardless of what your cross is.

Dana: Yes. They go hand in hand. I mean, but what I’m saying is, is because you’re a projector following their strategy is going to really help them express their cross’ energies. Remember, it’s not anything you’re doing. Right. Just, it just happens. Yeah. So that means that by you being, you, you’re being authentic by following your strategy and authority.

Hali: So that means your cross is “it’s my turn to shine.

Dana: That’s right.

So moving on to manifestors in their cross, uh, their cross will show up more as they inform others, because it helps them break free from the limits, imposed on them by others, by, by informing them of what they want to happen, what they are about to do or what they plan on doing so that people can basically get out of their way.

And then they can be in their own creative non-verbal flow, which I did speak to someone recently as a manifestor. And she said, she’s telling me how much she hates it when she has to tell people what she’s going to do, that it really does interrupt her. And she just like can’t handle it. So, um, anyway, so if, if a manifestor is informing people using their strategy, then, um, it’s really just to get people out of their way so they can live in their full expression of who they are.

And then the cross is revealed in its higher expression, those around them. And so we come to the reflectors and their cross, which their strategy. It’s, it’s a little different, they say for reflectors because they’re more lunar beings. And so much of cross is about your solar energy, your solar expressions, sun energy.

Hali: yeah, no solar solar is the sun. Lunar is the moon.

Dana: Yeah. So, um, there will be that. You know, 28 day period thing, but you think, oh, how does that work with, you know, cross is that also for reflectors as they are always sampling their environment because they have no defined centers, they’re all open. That means that they’re always sampling their environment.

They have to just keep following what environment feels correct for them will lead them to their right place and the right use of their cross. And so it could also say that leads them to a certain place or certain people that might not fully be understood why they are there, but through the course of maybe a lunar cycle, it slowly gets to be revealed of why they are being called forth.

Why these people or environments needed their energy around. Because I, I used to think about cross as being like personal to me. Like this is just about me, but it really is about the other. And what you being the fullest expression of yourself, You know, is where it’s needed the most,

Hali: Well like Ra said it was like the, the job description of your aura, which I, I feel like an aura is more of like, it’s not so much your internal thing, cause your aura is around you.

So I always kind of think of the aura as like what you’re putting out there.

Dana: Yeah, it’s true. And so this is where it’s really good to dig into the energies of your gates and what they mean to you. And like I said, the gene keys with Richard Rudds contemplations on, you know, helping you see if you’re maybe not living out the fullest truest gift expression of your energies. which I think is what his work is really great at point.

Cause I think we can all recognize are not, not our faults, but more of our, um, shadow behaviors then. Uh, allowing ourselves to see our, our gifts basically. So I think when you identify, oh yes, I can see that shadow energy. Like I’m just, okay. I can only speak to myself the most because that’s me, but with my, uh, sun and earth say the 14 and eight, the ones I’m more aware of.

So 14 is, uh, power skills, but he calls it, the gift of that is a competence. I’m like, ah, competence, what does that mean? But he says the, um, shadow expression of it is compromise. Compromising what’s correct for you because that gate it’s a sacral gate. It, it has a lot of power with the right direction. So so the best expression of that would be for me to keep moving in response into things that’s correct for me and no one else, what is good. And it brings this lot of energy, um, behind it it’s called power skills. But when I compromise, which I’ve pretty much done always, cause I’m also a 4/1 so it’s all about my people, what’s important, you know, my relationships and stuff, um, compromise being, I may put other people’s, things before my own when I’m compromising in that way, when I’m disregarding my sacral response, when I’m doing the work for other people and not necessarily for what feels right for me, I’m compromising.

And I totally, when I first read that, I was like, oh, You know, that makes sense.

That’s

Hali: my shadow I’m in it.

Dana: Well, That gate is supposed to be like, you know, this great, like abundance moneymaker kind of gate, because it really is. It’s using the power of your sacral and the right direction should bring a lot of, you know, um,

Hali: bounty.

Dana: Yeah.

Hali: Get you that booty.

Dana: But it’s been a lifelong struggle with me with the, with the financial in that way, but, and because I’ve always worked, but I’m realizing now through this work and work with Human Design, this is what really lights me up. Not parasailing, not working with flowers, not, you know, working with kids.

I mean, I did all those things. I could do it and they were okay. But it wasn’t the thing. But, um, so

Hali: it wasn’t the thing.

Dana: Yeah. But I could recognize more of when I’m living in my shadow. And like we also talked about, you’re going to go back and forth between gifts, shadow gifts, shadow, because you just Human and especially for your emotional authority, you’re going to go high.

You’re going to go low.

It’s just kind of interesting to know about yourself I, um, I have, I do like reading. The book of destinies, Chetan Parkin’s, descriptions of them. And again, you can read that description, but then you just, you just, it’s another one of those things in Human Design, but what is my interpretation, how this feels, because even though you can have these guidelines of what these gates, these archetypes are, these themes, it’s how you express it.

You know, what it feels like to you and everybody’s different. So there’s a lot of contemplation work there. So really we just look at, I’d bring up looking at cross and trying to understand it a little bit more is just because,

Hali: kind of at least let’s, you know, what you’re looking out for, what you’re kind of like trying to feel, I guess.

Dana: Well, yeah, it’s like theme it’s like circuitry shows you, if you have more, circuitry in, you know, the individual or the collective or whatever, how your energy wants to be used and express. This also is just another piece of the puzzle that kind of gives you a guideline of framework of what all the other elements in your chart are pointing to as well.

So, um, there is a lot like in mine, which should be about living in response about trusting I’ll be in the right place about connecting with the right people about having faith that, you know, resources won’t be a problem, as long as I stay true to what it’s guiding me towards. So yeah.

Yes.

And you being a projector and yours dominion sounds like such a strong, like authoritarian. It does, but the 26 and the 45 in your unconscious sun and earth cause your conscious sun and Earth 63 64, those head energy gates. Right? So you are I would say in your line six and that leadership position, but correct leadership because the 26 is also like the gate of integrity and, 45 kind of has that rulership king and queen energy.

So you are a, a leader and a guide, but in the right place, the right circumstances, when it’s, called forth from you as a projector, what that’s going to be, who knows it’s going to, maybe shift and change, but it’ll lead you to the right places where people recognize you for what you bring to the table.

Hali: I do typically take a leadership role.

Dana: You can’t help it.

Hali: Any group project I was in college, I was the one in charge of it. I, Hunter started the lip dub. I somehow ended up in charge of it, yelling at high school kids somehow.

Somehow it just happened.

Dana: I guess not all of them invited you in to see you were no,

Hali: no, they were just stupid high school kids.

Dana: Yeah. So anyways, yeah. That’s um, that’s, that’s the basics of cross. Do you feel like you have a little better understanding or did I just complicate the matter more?

Hali: No, I think I get it. Cause like you said, it’s just, I’d say it’s like the high level,

Dana: Yeah it’s like the container of what, everything

Hali: yeah. Of how your energy is. Right. The job description of your aura, according to RA,

Dana: right. Because if you look at all the, um, gate expressions, everything is trying to push through that sun gate. So that sun gate is always those sun gates are going to be the main themes. I think Karen Parker says it’s like a funnel turned upside down because all the outer planets and all those things down there, those are themes that are more universal themes, more like over, you know, more, um,

Hali: more long term,

Dana: the outer planets affect more of the, I guess we could talk about that one time to more of humanity, like if you’re born and, uh, you’re like Pluto gate themes are gonna be, um, kind of more applied to your generation.

Cause it takes Pluto like 84 years or something like that to, to orbit. So, um, Everything, all the themes, all the archetypes, all trying to push up through that expression and that sun gate. Hmm. That’s your main, because those gates are your 70% of your whole um, I was gonna say, population of your personality are these because they carry the most weight in the chart

Hali: sun, the someones or sun, or

Dana: yeah, mainly sun, but sun and earth.

They go hand in hand. They’re very closely, um, linked together. They’re linked together.

Hali: They buds. They best buds.

Dana: Yeah. Because you know

yeah. You know?

Yeah. Yeah.

I think it’s time for lunch. Yeah. All right. So that’s incarnation

cross, um, here in the

room together,

can we go eat now?

Hali: Yeah.

Dana: So

Hali: I think it’s lunchtime. I think we just need

Dana: to like cut it here and go back to next time will be in separate rooms. That’s okay. We’ll get together again. I’m sure

Hali: Now that we’ve figured it out.

Dana: Yeah. All right. So go forth everyone with your cross,

Hali: go forth and prosper. We, in the words of Spock,

Dana: just be you let your cross shine through

Hali: that’s our slogan. Just be you let your cross shine through

Dana: amen. Brothers and sisters until next time. Haley. I’ll see you later. So. It feels weird to say bye in front of you. But I closed my eyes by

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