In todays’s episode we are taking you to the origins of Human Design, how it came to be, and the more “woo” aspects of Human Design.  Ra Uru Hu, neutrinos, design crystals…it’s all here, and more! For all you Line 1’s and info lovers, this one’s for you!

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[00:00:00] Dana: And a lot of people are not happy. A lot of people have lived very unhappy lives, not just now for a long time, I mean generations passed because they never really understood who they really are. And what Human Design can show you is really the energy you bring into this world, what is consistent, reliable energy in you and what you bring to the table basically.

Human Design reveals who you are, energetically and who you came here to be. I’m Dana, the Human Design specialist

[00:00:36] Hali: and I’m Hali, the Human Design newbie. Listen in, as we explore how leaning into your authentic self is your ultimate path to success today, we’re diving into

[00:00:47] Dana: What is Human Design.

[00:00:49] Hali: The beginning,

[00:00:51] Dana: The origin story got to love a good origin story

This has a good origin story. Hang on.

[00:00:57] Hali: It’s an interesting one.

[00:00:59] Dana: It’s an interesting one. And I find that a lot of times in Human Design, circles or non circles are just trying to get the word out there. That a lot of people don’t like to talk about the origins, because it’s weird and

[00:01:16] Hali: It does sound, a little suspicious or sketchy just because of where it happened.

[00:01:30] Dana: Well, I will admit, like I told you on the last episode that when I first, discovered it and saw the the Bodygraph and tried to read some of the stuff, I was like, Hmm. Okay, this is interesting. And then I went on it, it might’ve been Jovian archive. And there was all these recordings from, Ra who we’ll talk about here in a minute, who was teaching and I was like, this guy’s crazy. I started to think, is this a cult and so I that’s another reason I just remembered that,  I kind of put it down because I was like, I don’t want him getting in my brain.

[00:02:05] Hali: This guy is a cult leader

[00:02:08] Dana: I mean, he’s crazy. And that’s usually one thing people can agree on it is a little strange, but, um, brilliant at the same time.

So anyways, where would you like to start? My dear?

[00:02:22] Hali: With the supernova.

[00:02:25] Dana: The supernova. Okay, cool.

[00:02:28] Hali: Because space is mind blowing.

[00:02:34] Dana: Yes. Well, okay. So in 1987, there was this supernova, death of a star. And so it sent all this, um, basically, Hmm. I don’t know where I’m doing the cart before the horse or chicken before the egg, because, okay.

Let’s talk about neutrinos first. Do you know what a neutrino is?

[00:03:00] Hali: I know because I looked it up. It’s the matter between atoms like between the parts an atom?

[00:03:08] Dana: Well, sort of. It’s,

[00:03:09] Hali: it’s smaller than atoms.

[00:03:11] Dana: It’s infinitesimally. I don’t think that’s the right word. Infinitesimal, infinitesimally small matter. And it’s something that they used to think was just pure energy, but they didn’t think it,

[00:03:29] Hali: Infinitesimal mass.

[00:03:31] Dana: Yes.

It’s the smallest thing, smallest thing out there. And basically they have, discovered neutrinos are the smallest things, let’s call it the, have any kind of mass to them, in our known universe and they were just kind of theorized before about maybe they had mass, but they have since discovered, I think since, uh, I don’t know if it was before or after the supernova.

I don’t know. Anyways, it’s basically the breath of stars is what they call neutrinos because they’re made in stars. They come from stars. And one cool thing I learned about them in researching some of this is that they travel in a straight line. and, so the neutrinos basically can pass through everything all the time.

Like right now on earth for every second on every square inch of earth, including us, there’s like trillions, 3 trillion, 3 trillion neutrinos, just passing through us all the time. Okay. So we got neutrinos.

[00:04:31] Hali: That’s a bit rude.

[00:04:34] Dana: They carry information and they some theorize the ancients that, you know, not the ancient not ancient scientists, but some scientists, theorize, or some people theorize that neutrinos are this, they carry this, the information, the vast information field that is our universe, and that informs everything, which is like qi and prana. It’s the quantum in a way.

[00:04:58] Hali: So like, what kind of information?

[00:05:03] Dana: Well, we’ll get,

[00:05:03] Hali: I guess more information that we take in subconsciously?

[00:05:08] Dana: No, like literally they, so the death of a star that comes out and it just travels through space and it travels like through Mars or travels through Venus and it travels through us.

And it’s I’ll tell you more about it in a minute. So now we can get back to the supernova.

[00:05:24] Hali: Okay. So we have a background on neutrinos

[00:05:26] Dana: A little background. This was the first, I think it was one of the first ones that it was visible to the human eye. They were able to actually see it probably through telescope.

[00:05:38] Hali: I guess it was close enough.

[00:05:39] Dana: Yeah, it was in our universe. It was way out on the edges, but it was big enough that it was seen. And they say that basically for, I think it was how long was it? It was 14 minutes.

[00:05:54] Hali: I read that note

[00:05:54] Dana: Three times as many neutrinos as normal. And so it was not exactly at this time, but it was around ,this time a little bit further on, because I don’t know the exact date on the actual supernova that there’s this guy, your buddy, Alan Krakower, Alan, you said

[00:06:13] Hali: is Robert Alan Krakower from Montreal.

[00:06:18] Dana: Oh, he’s Canadian.

[00:06:19] Hali: He is Canadian. His birthday’s coming up.

[00:06:22] Dana: Yeah, he was living in Ibiza, Spain. And like, I don’t know the guy personally, obviously

he’s, he’s passed, but there’s a lot of speculation on, and I think he’s even said himself. He, you know, he, he may have been, imbibing (Hali: He was a school teacher ) things the times.

What does that have to do with anything?

(Responding to Hali, not transcribed.) He was doing drugs, (joking chatter about possible drug usage)

[00:06:48] Hali: obviously he’s a school teacher. No, just kidding.

[00:06:52] Dana: Yeah,

[00:06:52] Hali: Schoolteacher

[00:06:54] Dana: Anyway. So he had, he basically had this event that he, uh, described as being, penetrated by something, he called the Voice and it was an, it was really interesting. It’s the first time I read it, not that long ago about how he described what had happened. You know, he just came home one night and the dog started barking and he didn’t know what’s going on.

And then suddenly he just like, felt the presence of the Voice. So this is why people don’t like to talk too much about it. I think people are coming around more quote unquote woo things, which I hate the woo term, but basically had an eight day experience of the Voice telling him that he needed to write this shit down.

[00:07:38] Hali: Hey, I read that he, uh, he said it wasn’t very pleasant. It was an unpleasant voice.

[00:07:44] Dana: It wasn’t a positive experience

[00:07:46] Hali: and it didn’t let him eat. Didn’t let him sleep, eight days, that sucks.

That’s what I read.

[00:07:54] Dana: Oh, I didn’t know. You did some reading.

[00:07:56] Hali: That’s why I was a little bit late to this meeting.

[00:08:01] Dana: Maybe I should ask you questions.

[00:08:03] Hali: No don’t,

[00:08:05] Dana: No? Alright. So, basically he was given this system and he had no idea what it was, it got all the information. It was very specific and there well, you’ll find things in Human Design where there’s just, you know, you can only question for so long. Well, why like the centers, the colors of the centers on the Bodygraph, why are they certain colors?

No, but he that’s just what the voice said. And, and there’s no, well, you know, I’ve heard, um, some people talk about, say that knew him that said that he said it was very specific colors and it was, had to be drawn a very specific way. And he had to keep redoing it and redoing it and redo it until he got it, right. But I don’t know. It doesn’t make sense to me the colors of the centers, because, I feel like they should be like colors of the chakras, but we’ll get into that too.

So basically they he said that he spent the next year or so of his life just trying to get himself back together again after having this experience and then start kind of trying to assimilate this information.

And, then he started teaching and sharing the system in 1992. So what did he receive, right?

Basically the voice told him that, you know, we are, kind of all fragments of these two original crystals. He said that what we understand is the beginning of the universe, wasn’t really the beginning of the universe as we understand it. And that it wasn’t like the big bang, wasn’t like the end of something, it was the beginning of almost like creation conception. If you want to get really finite about it, he said that we’re actually like a fetus in the womb. Like our universe, everything we know is we’re not fully developed. And the voice even called us, didn’t call us humans called us raves. He’s the voice said humans haven’t been born yet.

That we’re just the building blocks. I know you don’t like that.

[00:09:58] Hali: No, cause that sounds scary.

[00:10:01] Dana: That’s why, we’ll just set that, we’ll just place that little nugget right there

[00:10:06] Hali: Put that one on the shelf.

[00:10:10] Dana: Yeah. But, do you think it’s kind of important to note because, let’s face it. I’m, I’m a researcher. I’m a line one. I want to know all the information and I know not everybody wants to know all the information, but there’s quite possibly line ones out there that want to know. And, I would say that he said that there was the, these, he just the voice. I shouldn’t say “he” he, they, the voice said that there was the basic yin and yang.

Right. So the yin was this, he called him like crystals. He. I’m going to stop saying that. I’m going to say they. There was like a yin egg that contained all the material of the universe. And inside this egg was a crystal like structure.

It’s not  really a crystal. It’s just something for our brains to understand. So there’s this container of all material. And then the yang seed, which also had the same crystal structure collided together. And this kind of goes along the same lines with how, um, the building blocks of science. Of the universe, according to science is that matter, there’s matter and there’s energy, right? And this is what this is matter and energy. So when these two collided, it created this huge, explosion out into the universe. And so those original crystals, the yang and the yin fragmented into zillions of crystals just forever expanding out in the universe.

And that’s important because, in the Human Design system, we have this design side, which is the body and the personality side. So, and they refer to those as, as crystals and they reside in our body. So the voice says there’s a little bit of this crystalline structure and all of us, we are all part of the same thing.

So there you go. I just like that. It makes sense to me. But I’ve been looking at it for awhile. Questions?

[00:12:19] Hali: That’s cause I, I knew about the body and the personality side, but then to have it then tie back into that is interesting to know.

[00:12:27] Dana: Yeah, it is. So what’s also interesting to note and this has to do with the actual mechanics of the system and like what it’s built upon, the voice made basically two predictions at the time that were contradictory, this was 1987 to what science had already known.

And one of them was about the neutrinos that we were talking about. Um, so these neutrinos, you know, they pass through all matter all the time, come from the far reaches of the universe and they can now they recently, two months ago, they’re hard to find they’re hard to kind of pinpoint, but they have been found and they found one, they had these huge underground laboratory type things that are there to try and track them. And they recently found one that came from way beyond the outer edges of our universe. These scientists, man.

They are very patient people. They wait a long time and they’re researching a lot of calculations. Let’s give them a little applause. So, so if you think about it, these neutrinos, if they’re passing through us, they are interacting with our DNA. Now you asked about what information they bring.

[00:13:48] Hali: Yes.

[00:13:50] Dana: So the analogy they like to give in Human Design is that, imagine you have a white car and you have a black.

And as they travel  towards each other, maybe they slightly run into each other, like sideswipe, each other. You might get a little black on the white car. You might get a little a white paint on the black car. Nothing’s really changed, but it’s influenced there’s a little bit of material, a little bit of information on each car now they’re so they’re a little different, so same thing as each neutrino passes through the universe, and it interacts with any other matter, it’s forever, kind of got a little different flavor to it, a little imprint to it. And then if it passes through us, it informs our DNA. That’s what, that’s the whole basis of everything. Let that simmer.

[00:14:43] Hali: It’s interesting. The information, but it is, I don’t like, uh, super abstract things.

[00:14:52] Dana: And there is, you know, for me, it’s about all I can do with this information, because I’m not a scientist.

I’ll just take it at that. I’m like, okay.

But, you know, I mean, people have been studying the effects of the planets on our, you know, here on earth, and to, I think it’s crazier to say that all the things out in the cosmos don’t affect us than it is to say it does. I mean, the moon affects us here on earth, the gravitational pull and all of a sudden

[00:15:21] Hali: let’s not get started on the moon.

[00:15:32] Dana: Okay. Well, anyways, um, so in 1987, yes, in 1987, they did not yet know that these neutrinos had mass, yet. And so, we do now.

[00:15:45] Hali: So they, they were, they weren’t a completely new concept, but they were very theoretical about having mass.

[00:15:52] Dana: Right. Because, um, yeah, they thought they were pure energy, but science has since confirmed that they have very, very, very, very, very small amount of mass.

And I think your brother’s one that told me, he was like, yeah, cause they don’t travel faster than light. I was like, well, there you go. Once again, can totally have information about something that you really shouldn’t. But

[00:16:22] Hali: Yeah, but then, you know, sometimes he’ll be, he’ll say something with the same confidence and it’s just a bold face lie.

[00:16:31] Dana: There’s that.

[00:16:33] Hali: But that one, I, I feel like he actually knows

[00:16:36] Dana: So if that little factoid blew you away or gets you irritated, this next one is really gonna really gonna grab ya. But we talk about it a lot and Human Design, and maybe we should put this episode like fourth or fifth. So people like, nah, I don’t want to know anymore.

[00:17:00] Hali: Well, we’re either going to suck them in or repel them.

[00:17:02] Dana: So yeah. Well, and we’re going to get to the point of why this is relevant and how it can actually help you. But. Anyways, this is just our contribution.

So the second prediction that the voice made was that, um, not yet, and this is to right now, this is still true, has science, found the existence of something called a magnetic monopole. So I know, you know about magnets, they’re dipole, right?

They are getting close. I just read an article the other day, that would no, I didn’t, I watched a YouTube video that had me for about, and this was a legitimate science channel. It wasn’t some wacko science channel. This guy was so smart and used so many words. I did not understand. I just sat there first couple minutes, I’m like, yeah, I’m going to get, understand this. And then I was like, oh, and when I went for like 20 minutes. I thought there’s people that understand this stuff. This is crazy. But anyway, so they are close to discovering a magnetic magnetic monopoles and the voice says that they will discover that this is actually the source of

[00:18:19] Hali: the source of gravity.

[00:18:23] Dana: You’re gonna ruin my moments.

[00:18:26] Hali: No, I wanted to be in on that one.

[00:18:28] Dana: What do you think about that?

[00:18:32] Hali: So we don’t know where gravity comes from.? We just know it’s there. I don’t like that. I don’t like that.

[00:18:39] Dana: They, yeah, they have theories, but it’s one of those things that they don’t, from what I understand, I was surprised to hear that they don’t really know, like they have theories, but,

[00:18:50] Hali: but then how can, so how can we so

[00:18:53] Dana: People will comment and say, you guys are stupid.

[00:18:57] Hali: No. So, so they must know how gravity works because we can calculate the gravity on other planets. We just don’t know where it comes from. So then how do we know our calculations on another planets are correct?

[00:19:15] Dana: That is something beyond my pay scale. I don’t know, I don’t know, I have no idea, but, , I’m just going to drop that there too .

Remember magnetic monopole only attracts does not repel. That’s a very important part in the Human Design too, because they said, you know, we’ve got those, crystals, got the yin crystal, the young crystal that reside in the head center, the ajna center, and then it’s all held together in the G center, which we’ll talk about later, by a magnetic monopole.

This is what the voice is. So most important thing here to understand is you don’t need to really know any of this shit.

It is not going to change if Human Design is useful to you or not. It could be interesting to hear this, but it’s not prerequisite to understand the origin story for it to work for you.

Right? Right. But, uh, so there’s that. So what have we covered?

Wow. We did get a lot. Okay.

[00:20:25] Hali: So I, I was, I was, I wanted to know why he changed his name and I couldn’t find that because it’s a very odd name, but according to this one thing I read,

[00:20:35] Dana: He changed it from Alan Krakower to Ra Uru Hu.

[00:20:41] Hali: Yeah, well, Uru, Uru, Uru. That reminds

[00:20:45] Dana: You know Ra’s a sun god

[00:20:47] Hali: Uru reminds me of, uh, finding Dory when a Marlin is trying to call the bird over. He goes, uru, uru

I think I’ve seen that movie a few more times than you have. So after he got the, after he heard from the voice this says he’s, after studying the old and modern wisdom teachers for two years, he changed his name and his new chosen name, the Ra Uru Hu, who apparently means the door closer. Yeah. I thought that was kind of interesting.

That’s what it says.

[00:21:27] Dana: The door closer?. I’ve never heard that.

[00:21:32] Hali: This is according to a core, core, core rara.

[00:21:37] Dana: Can you say that again?

[00:21:39] Hali: Cora, Cora. I was trying to add to

[00:21:47] Dana: Quora. It’s important. I’ve never heard that before, but you know, I saw that sounded kind of interesting. Yeah. I wonder what doors closed.

[00:22:00] Hali: The old, the old way of thinking.

[00:22:04] Dana: All right, so let’s get onto, we know the origin. So what did the voice deliver? This Human Design system basically is a synthesis of several other existing systems,

[00:22:18] Hali: Like five or six, right?

[00:22:20] Dana: Five. Yeah, it’s a, okay. So the most recognizable components astrology, western astrology. Um, the Chinese I-Ching the Hindu Brahman chakra system and the Judaic Kabbalah. And they’ll say quantum physics. Yeah. Well, you know, neutrinos.

What’s interesting is, you know, it’s thrown out a lot, this synthesis thing, but it’s not taking pieces and parts.

It’s like taking each system because most of those , well, except for quantum physics have been around for a very, very long time. I mean, these are things that, I mean, the I-Ching alone is I think one of the oldest things out there not out there, but I mean, um, a teaching

[00:23:10] Hali: One of the oldest texts I think is what I read.

[00:23:12] Dana: Yeah. Yeah. And of course. All the other ones are pretty old as well. And they were,

[00:23:20] Hali: it’s the oldest of the Chinese classic texts, the I-Ching ,

[00:23:24] Dana: and they’re all like wisdom teachings. They’re like teachings on, how to, how to be, how to interact, you know, dealing a lot with, um, your own personal system and your, your energy and how you’re here to express a lot of the things.

I mean, the I-Ching, from what I understand, they’re not really sure, the actual origins origins of it. It’s so old and it’s been interpreted and everything.

And I know, I knew nothing about the I-Ching before, um, digging into Human Design, same for Kabbalah tree of life is what it was tree of life. Um, I really don’t know anything about it, still.

Very much know the chakra system, with my little background there and yoga and energy and all that stuff. So that’s probably why it resonated a bit to me, but I may have dabbled in a little astrology

[00:24:23] Hali: Feels like that stuff, the one that people know the most. Like pretty much everyone. I feel like knows what their star sign, sun sign

[00:24:39] Dana: I mean, the sun is a star if we want to get technical.

But what I would say about the synthesis is a true true synthesis, nothing is left out. And so it contains these systems.

And I like to think of it as they were, you know, Almost like in a treasure hunt where you’ve got to gather the keys and put all the keys together, something like that in order to like, get the final mystery piece, to know, unlock the door kind of thing, or the treasure chest.

I see those as like, I, the way I see them as, cause I guess probably it is kind of layered together on the Human Design mandala, these layers of these systems that created, really a whole new system. So it’s not like he just, pigeon hole or picked or whatever, the term is, little bit of this and a little bit of that, you know, it’s just like, it’s informed by all of these already existing systems.

What’s, … go ahead.

[00:25:41] Hali: So it’s not like, so it’s not like, oh, we’ll take this from the chakras and this from I Ching and this from whatever it’s, he kind of took, he learned about the systems and then melded them?

[00:25:56] Dana: From what I understand, he didn’t do anything. It was literally shown from what I understand, it was shown to him that this is how it looks on a mandala.

So basically when you look at the Human Design, because it is based on your time and your place and date of birth. And that is because of the neutrino stream. Where were you on the earth? At what time? Exactly what neutrinos basically pass through you. How are you influenced by the different planetary influences and everything else?

What is your energetic DNA? What does, what, what the, cause it informed your DNA as it pass through you. So it shows you really, it’s like the little, um, my knowing circuit right now, 43, 23, it knows it. And it’s trying to bring language to it and it’s having a hard time. This happens a lot.

So it’s kinda like, do you know the little, um, when they used to computers long time ago used to have these like cards that had punched holes, all punched through them and…?

[00:27:11] Hali: yes, I have seen those.

[00:27:12] Dana: That’s how I imagine it. Like, that’s how I imagine what your, your Bodygraph mandala is like, this is your signature.

This is what was imprinted on your DNA at the moment of your birth. That’s how I see it is, this is the information that was passed through to you. This is your unique, signature energetic blueprint.

[00:27:33] Hali: So like say you would put a blank card in the moment you were born it, punched it out and then pull out the card and that’s your Human Design.

[00:27:42] Dana: Yeah, that’s one way of looking at it. I don’t want to get technical. (laughter)

Yeah. Again, that’s just how I see it. So it’s like, we are all because even, you know, people with the same birth date and the same town, you know, there’s going to be differentiate there’s, there’s literally, I think I’ve heard somewhere in the billion range of different designs, Human designs, because people all over the earth.

Right. All these things, different times. Now, some people ask, well, what about twins? Well, yeah, twins like. Our hairstylist, she’s a twin and they’re born just minutes apart. So yeah, pretty much there, Human Design Bodygraph will look the same, but then when you get a lived experience, they have very different experiences, even though they’re twins, he’s male, she’s female.

So they’re gonna, you know, play out things differently within their own design, which, you know, we’ll always be talking about that, but where was I?

[00:28:48] Hali: So you’re talking about the synthesis.

[00:28:50] Dana: Oh yeah. So when you’re looking at a Human Design mandala, like I said, we’ve put it in the show notes if you haven’t ever looked at your Bodygraph or anything like that.

Go ahead and have, get one and look, at it. So you’re familiar because this is a podcast. This is not a video.

[00:29:06] Hali: It’s a lot of information but we will explain eventually,

[00:29:11] Dana: But basically when you’re looking at the, the original, so they used to, thank God for computers, now like sites like Genetic Matrix, they have the, algorithm, whatever they use, the formula, the programming formula that automatically can calculate and give you a Bodygraph and mandala of, of your Human Design.

So the first step was this mandala it looks like it’s round, like a mandala and the astrology wheel is what people would notice first. You know, if you look at anybody’s astrology chart, it shows you usually, you know, where the planets are, it’s on this wheel and then it’s broken into 10 houses. Um, and that’s broken into all the different sun signs.

You’d be like, oh yeah, my Mars was in, you know, Venus or what not Mars was, Mars was, I don’t know, Aries or something like that. I’m not an astrologer and Human Design is not astrology but it’s flavored by it. So, um,

[00:30:15] Hali: It’s flavored, I like that, It’s flavored by it..

[00:30:19] Dana: So. So when we were talking about the neutrinos, they come from the stars.

When you’re talking about this imprinting thing, they travel in straight lines, they carry this mass, they pass through and they interact with other things.

So the mandala shows us where the planets were and how they were informed to uniquely imprint upon you when were born. And so the very moment, very place, this is represented on this mandala.

So you’ll see the common placements of the planets. Now there’s also the layer of the I-Ching and that’s represented on the mandala too. So if you were to look at a  mandala, you’ll see, well, the I-Ching is comprised of 64 hexagrams and the easiest way to explain it, cause I’m still learning so much about it is like we said, it’s an ancient Oracle, but it’s also a metaphor for life. It’s archetypal patterns of the human experience.

So we all have all 64 of these hexagrams, archetypes, whatever, because we’re all human. Which ones are going to be more consistent in us and which ones aren’t. And that’s what Human Design Bodygraph mandala can show you. It’s a map.

[00:31:42] Hali: Is that defined by the planets?

[00:31:45] Dana: Yes.

[00:31:47] Hali: So wherever you’re the planet, like, say wherever Venus’s, whatever I-Ching or, or sun sign or whatever it’s at will be more consistent and prominent in our lives?

[00:31:58] Dana: Yes. So if you look at the mandala you’ll see there’s another outer wheel that has the 64 hexagrams that go all the way around the wheel and within each hexagram and the Chinese I-Ching these hexagrams are made up of six lines. Okay. (Hali says it reminds her of morse code. )

Okay.

[00:32:22] Hali: Well, cause there’s like there sometimes there’s dashes and then there’s dots cause they’re like, It’s six lines, but then they’re all different combinations of short little lines, long lines, full lines, broken lines.

[00:32:36] Dana: Well, you know, they said that not, they, I mean, some of the research I was doing, that it’s this Oracle, but it’s also, it’s also very mathematical this, hexagram structure because they call the, each hexagram has an upper trigram and a lower trigram.

And it’s really just a matter of different lines. And it’s so complicated. Like, I can’t even get into it right now, but like, I can’t even get onto it right now.

[00:33:06] Hali: I can’t even,

[00:33:09] Dana: But what’s interesting, and this stuff will just like this, it will literally scramble your brain.

I mean when you see all the patterns and, the fact that there’s 64 hexagrams, there’s like 64 codones in our DNA, there’s, there’s a lot of correlations between the Chinese I-Ching and the human genome system, which is really mind blowing.

Yeah. Because somebody had said that when they discovered our genetic code, it was also discovered to be the same math from the I-Ching of 5,000 years ago.

So therefore this wheel, the mandala of the I-Ching, the 64, hexagrams going around. It is like stringing out of our genetic code.

[00:33:55] Hali: I wonder if the person that wherever the I-Ching originated from, if it was a, a voice that also came to them,

[00:34:08] Dana: Um, if there’s maybe

[00:34:09] Hali: they were all voices there’s maybe

[00:34:12] Dana: So where did these things come from,

[00:34:17] Hali: Because especially if there’s like 5,000 years later, it’s the same things, same math or whatever used to discover our genome, which 5,000 years ago, they had absolutely no idea that exist.

[00:34:30] Dana: Right. Yeah. Well, yeah, it’s the same structure of like upper trigram lower trigram.

I think it’s the same in these programming codones in our DNA have these upper structures and lower structures and it’s, there’s like 64 of them, and they all like correlate with different, amino acids and all this shit that I don’t understand, but I’m like, well, okay.

[00:34:54] Hali: So you can just say, okay.

[00:34:56] Dana: Yep. I say, okay.

I’m like you say, so I’m, I’m going to go with it because everything else checked out so far in this system, for me, I’ve been looking at it for a while now. I haven’t found anything. That’s like, no, that’s not right. So, so you have the outer wheel astrology, the, you know, Which would be their sun signs and ha or the inner wheel.

And then you have the outer wheel of all the hexagrams. And like I said, each hexagram has these six lines. So each hexagram on the wheel is broken into six lines as well. So basically there’s going to be 384 lines around the Human Design mandala okay. So you

[00:35:35] Hali: like lines coming out, like, uh, like pie lines, like coming out the middle?

[00:35:38] Dana: It’s like a big spiral. It’s a, mandala not spiral.

That’s not the right word. A wheel, wheel.

[00:35:44] Hali: Pie. Wheel probably makes more sense. Cause there’s a lot of those would be really, really tiny pie pieces.

[00:35:54] Dana: So yes. So we, so then on that inner wheel where all those little lines are, that’s where we  place, we can map out where the planets were, right? Like you do in a normal astrology.

So it’s like, you can see there’s these structures on top of each other, that, when they all come

together, they show you, pinpointing info information down to the like very, very finite point of your, structure, your energetic structure, basically. And then beyond, I mean, there is another, there’s something, that people call Astro HD where they really go into blending astrology and Human Design, but other than showing where the planets are on the mandala it doesn’t really use astrology beyond that.

[00:36:44] Hali: What are the numbers between the I-Ching and the astrology?

[00:36:52] Dana: What do you mean?

[00:36:53] Hali: There’s a on this Bodygraph, there’s a, there’s a circle of numbers  in between, the astrology and the I-Ching.

[00:37:04] Dana: Oh, the numbers. Those are the, those are the numbers of the hexagrams. Those are the 64 numbers. Yeah, those are so, yeah, you’ll see the hexagrams but those numbers are okay, so when you

[00:37:19] Hali: I got it.

[00:37:19] Dana: When you’re looking at the Human Design mandala, then in the middle is the Bodygraph those numbers, are the gates, we call them. Which are hexagrams. The hexagrams are gates. So in the I-Ching they’re called hexagrams. In Human Design, they are called gates. Okay.

[00:37:39] Hali: Ooh, already coming together.

[00:37:41] Dana: Yes. So when you look at a bodygraph and I should point out this is a lot to take in, you know, listening, just listening to it. Cause it’s very visual component that I do have the free training on the, on the website.

There’s always a link in the show notes, which has a visual component here of, which is a lot easier for a lot of people to understand myself included of, um, where, what we’re talking about here, but basically, um, yes, the, when you look at a Bodygraph and you’ll see all the shapes on the Bodygraph there’s triangles, there’s, um, squares, they all have numbers in them.

Those numbers are always going to be in the same place on a Bodygraph. So like if a head center gate 63, gate 61, 64, Always there. Okay?

What it shows us is based on when you were born and where a planet sits within that wheel, if you see, like in your case, the sun would show up in the little line that has a 63 on the end I believe. Or 64.

I don’t remember which one’s yours.

[00:38:53] Hali: Thanks.

[00:38:55] Dana: I look at a lot of bodygraphs.

So yeah, 63, gate of [00:39:00] doubts. So that would be why on your body graph, if you were to look at it where gate 63 is, it’ll be, what we call activated, it’ll look like it’ll have a little circle number around it, which means that that gate was on that gate was imprinted, that gate is activated in you.

So Human Design uses the, calculation from the time of birth and place of birth on the personality side, they call it, and then there’s this other component of it, which is the design side, which is 88 astrological degrees before you’re born which is basically 88 days before you’re born.

Yeah. So these two are layered together as well to create this Bodygraph.

So basically out of the 64 hexagrams / gates that are there, there’s going to be, 26, planet placements. Now some planets, like the big planets, outer planets could activate the same gate, both three months before you were born, and on the day, like Uranus are very slow moving plants. They could see a double activation, but anyways, we can get into more of that later on when we’re going into like what the gates channels are and everything. Um, so basically what I will say about the 88, degrees before thing.

[00:40:24] Hali: So why 88 degrees?

[00:40:26] Dana: So I heard it explained not that long ago, cause I’ve been hearing different explanations of it for a long time. And a lot of times when those things just kind of glossed over, let me see if I can get this out of my head again correctly. So basically the voice said that before you are born, it is the father’s energy that calls forth the design crystal.

And this is the part where you’re just like, okay, they’re just gonna tell us whatever, give us something in our head to wrap around because these crystals, where do they hang out? I don’t know. They hang out in the earth somewhere. So this is the part where I’m like, I don’t, this is, this is probably the one part where I’m like, eh, I don’t, I don’t know.

But anyways, the energy of the father pulls forth the design crystal, which the design crystal is the vehicle is the body, okay?

[00:41:20] Hali: Okay.

[00:41:21] Dana: And then, this is somewhere around like eight hours before conception, or it’s very precise

[00:41:29] Hali: okay, voice.

[00:41:31] Dana: But what I understood was that, basically that crystal comes into being through conception.

Right. And it starts this, this crystal of consciousness starts to build the vehicle. The design crystal is creating the body. It’s building all the things it’s, you know, making your vehicle, your vehicle. And then it’s when the neocortex is fully formed is around that, five six month mark right? When the neocortex is fully formed, that’s when the personality crystal, the you, that you think is you right from the moment you’re born, that’s when it drops into the vehicle, into the body.

So that the personality crystal, has roughly three months to acclimate itself to its unborn form to its vehicle, to its body, because they also say in science, that that is when, brain function starts and all this stuff.

[00:42:30] Hali: So the, the, which one is the one that is put in stone, when, on when your born?

[00:42:39] Dana: Personality side personality. The personality side is the side. That is the you, that you think is, is you it’s what you most, I, I identify with it’s…If you’re looking at the Bodygraph, it’s going to be on the right-hand side of the Bodygraph usually in black numbers and the design side, the vehicle side, the body is on the left and it’s the red numbers.

[00:43:00] Hali: And the body is the one that is 88 degrees before birth.

[00:43:03] Dana: but I just thought it was cool to hear it. And that I only heard that explained recently that, you know, the design crystal drops, you know, is called forth, starts creating the vehicle, starts creating the body. It has all this other information with it, you know?

And then, then the personality crystal drops in to help you kind of get, you know, used to your new, your new vehicle. So that’s, that’s it.. So why, why do we, why do we need to know all this stuff, right?

[00:43:33] Hali: Why, tell me why.

[00:43:35] Dana: What’s the purpose? Well, what is interesting is that, we talked about, you know, this is just information to have, listen to it once, don’t worry about it again, you don’t need to know any of that in order for Human Design to be beneficial to you.

Because basically when you see your body graph, it almost starts to work on you at a subconscious level, anyhow, because your, your consciousness starts to recognize what is you and what’s not you.

And a lot of people are not happy. A lot of people have lived very unhappy lives, not just now for a long time, because, I mean generations passed because they never really understood who they really are. And what Human Design can show you is really the energy you bring into this world, what is consistent, reliable energy in you and what you bring to the table basically.

And that the more you can explore and lean into that, you find that you don’t have to change anything about yourself, yourself is perfect.

You just have to start peeling away the things that aren’t you. Which we’ll go into many times, I’m sure, but we’ll just call it now conditioning and that, human life was probably intended this way, to learn about, ourselves, our power, our connection to each other, who we are. I believe that we’re all just part of one big thing, trying to experience itself through us.

So it’s a, it’s a map. It’s, it’s almost like a logical way of seeing ourselves that you can look at something and say, okay, this is me when you’re talking about conditioning. Now as babies, we’re one of those few species here on earth. that are born completely, completely helpless. Like we, we can’t do anything. We would die instantly, well not instantly but pretty quickly because we can’t feed ourselves. We can’t drink, we can’t move. We can do nothing. Our brains aren’t even formed either, you know,

[00:45:46] Hali: Fully formed.

[00:45:47] Dana: Yeah. Fully formed. And so we rely on the people in our environment to survive.

And that is built into the human experience. That isn’t something that just started happening. This has been since the beginning of time.

So what happens is, you learn, all the people around you, not just family, other people, you learn their experience of the world. You learn their beliefs about the world and you live your life according to what they know.

And this is something that totally changed me in my life, when I first learned this concept in, uh, yoga, is that whose life are you living? If you like, don’t ever question what you think, what you know, and it’s quite enlightening. So basically Human Design shows you look, this is how you came in.

This may not be what you think about yourself, now, you may not believe it, but this is you and I have found over and over and over and over again for myself, for other people that have done readings for friends that talk to 100% resonate with what the body graph shows them about themselves.

Nobody is ever, completely like, that is so not me, kind of like how, when you say, oh, you’re a Scorpio, you must be deep and mysterious and broody. And I’m like, no, I’m not, I don’t think so. Am I like all your vengeful and you’re dark and you’re scary. I’m like, no, it could have been at one point, but no,

[00:47:31] Hali: maybe in high school.

[00:47:34] Dana: Yeah. So it’s not what you’re seeing is not subjective. There’s no test to take or anything like that. It was like, literally here you are. And then it shows you how you’re designed to energetically interact with others in the world, how you are designed to make decisions that are aligned for yourself.

And it’s very simple stuff. We keep talking about complexities and there’s so much information, but the basics of what you need to know to help you start living more, aligned and hopefully happier, it’s the basic parts. Which is, what’s your energy type? What’s your authority, which is how are you meant to make decisions?

And that’s all you need to know. And that’s what we’re going to keep diving into. So I think we’ve got a long time today. Any other questions?

[00:48:26] Hali: Uh, no.

[00:48:29] Dana: Okay. Well, I think the next time, what we should do next is talk about the types, the Human Design aura types, and then get into the fun part of it. And, well, that’s fun, but

[00:48:46] Hali: we’re just going to talk a lot more about Robert Alan

[00:48:49] Dana: People don’t like background history. Some people do. So you know what, hopefully, maybe we should say at the beginning of our episode, Hey,[00:49:00]

this is a background origin story. Have a listen if not go ahead and skip to episode three. Just go ahead.

[00:49:08] Hali: This is for all you nerdy line ones out there who need all the information, not nerdy. Hey, we are a resource of information line ones. Yes. Okay. So,

[00:49:22] Dana: I think that’s it for today. We’ll just wrap it up there and, you know, keep going.

[00:49:28] Hali: I’m excited to get into the types. Yeah. Types. That’s technically the, like the manifestor and that those are types.

[00:49:36] Dana: Those are types. Yep. Human Design energy types. That’s it. So. We’ll just leave it there. So there you have it. There’s your background. Now we can move on. So we’ll see in the next episode, how’s that sound Hali?

[00:50:23] Hali: Let’s talk about types.

[00:50:25] Dana: All right, catch ya on The next one.

Bye.

Bye.

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