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Episode 022- (Part 1) Ajna Center

Dana: Hello. Hello. So normally at the beginning of the episode, you’d hear a little clip here, a little snippet of what’s to come, but I just wanted to hop in here and tell you that when we first recorded this episode on the Ajna center, it got a little bit. Longer than we expected. So in post production realized that maybe it was too much information in one episode.

So I’ve decided to break it up into two parts. And so you will be listening next to the first part overview of the Ajna center. And then our next episode will be all the gates of the Ajna center.

I hope you enjoy today’s show. So let’s get.

Human Design reveals who you are, energetically and who you came here to be. I’m Dana Human Design special.

Hali: And I’m Hali the Human Design newbie. Listen in, as we explore how leaning into your authentic self is your ultimate path to success. Welcome to the Human Design. Hi podcast. Let’s get into it.

Dana: Hello? Hello? Hello everybody. How you doing Hali?

Hali: How are you?

Dana: I’m doing really well. And gosh, I can’t believe we’ve done so many of these podcasts now. I mean, I know some people have lots of episodes, hundreds episodes, you know, um, but I feel really good about having this many episodes, but you know, one thing I haven’t, we haven’t really done too much on here is really at the beginning of the show is to say, of course, thank you to everybody for listening.

And hopefully. This isn’t, I don’t wanna say this isn’t the first episode, but hopefully you’ve listened to multiple episodes. And if so, I hope that means you’re maybe enjoying the show cuz we’re enjoying making it aren’t you? Yeah, very much. And hopefully everybody thinks we’re providing value out there.

And so I just wanted to take a moment to kind of remind everybody that if they can to go ahead and rate the podcast, you don’t necessarily have to write a review, but if you could just rate us and doesn’t have to be perfect, you don’t have to say everything’s great, but cuz we’re learning, we’re growing.

But I do know that the more ratings reviews that we get kind of helps push the podcast forward to discoverability basically because The more people that interact with it rate it, it, you know, apple wants to push it Spotify and, so whatever device platform, I mean that you listen on. If you take a moment, do that, we’d really appreciate it,  because it helps us get discovered and it helps us help more people. And the whole idea behind the podcast and the Human Design hive is getting a lot of people, um, informed about all this information and empowering themselves and so that they can learn to like trust themselves and know what they’re here to do and how to do it.

So just wanted to do that real quick. So it’s one order of business

Hali: I’ll spread the word.

Dana: please. because we’re still, we’re still gonna be here, but you know, it’d be nice if even more people were listening. That’d be awesome. And then, Second thing. I have an update from last week’s episode,

Hali: oh,

Dana: which is, we were talking about the head center

Hali: yes.

Dana: and got to the point, I think, well, there was only three gates.

It was when we were talking about the gates and we were talking about, what does it mean if you’re looking up to the left or to the right? Do you remember

Hali: yeah. Mm-hmm.

Dana: Okay. You said in your line, I didn’t find any information about it

Hali: Yeah, no, I, I also looked it up, uh, like yesterday, I think.well, because they mentioned it on CSI. She’s like she was looking down into the left and she was lying and I was like, oh shit, what is it?

Dana: is

Hali: So I looked it up and it basically said, there’s no evidence. So.

Dana: right. Right. And so what I did find though, is that looking up, rolling the eyes upwards does have an effect on the brain.

It’s an automatic response that, um, it’s an automatic response that your body makes when it’s trying to access information. Did I well, that’s probably why my eyes are rolled up so much because I’m trying to access information, but so yeah, trying to find like lost or hidden information in the brain.

it says that, that you do that for two reasons. One is because, it starts producing, uh, alpha waves, this like even closing the eyes helps create more alpha wave state in your brain, which is a calming state. But then also the like looking up It’s it basically takes out the visual field in front of you of what you’re looking at.

So it won’t interfere with that, those pieces in your brain, the, like we were talking about the gate 64, where you’re just seeing chunks and fragments memory or whatever. You’re, you’re not competing visually with what’s in front of you with what you’re trying to find in your mind. And so I was like, ah, that’s interesting.

That being said, if you wanna help produce, get in that commerce date, which is also, you know, why you meditate, whatever you close your eyes, because it does like shut down that visual component of what’s outside of you and being stimulated by everything. But I find, yeah, I have to close my a lot when I wanna concentrate on, so not like reading, but sometimes I think I’ve done it here.

When I’m talking to you on the podcast, when I’m trying to like, get my thoughts straight as I’m talking, I

Hali: you’ll say a whole sentence sometimes with your eyes closed.

Dana: Well, that’s how easily I’m distracted. that I could be like, oh, oh, look, there’s a bird outside the window. Like just now as we started to talk about this, I was like, oh, it’s raining. it started raining while we’re here. So anyways, but anyways, so they also say the, uh, alpha waves kind of like that daydream wavelength.

It is because it’s a nice relaxed between like waking and sleeping. So it calms it down. Obviously it’s not instantaneous like, but it does help. So anyways, that’s

Hali: would you define as daydreaming?

Dana: what would I define as daydreaming?

Hali: because, like, I don’t feel like I, I daydream ever, but then I don’t know if, like, how I think about it is like more rigid. Maybe. I don’t know.

Dana: Well, I think maybe the term daydreaming has kind of a fanciful connotation to it. Like it means like you’re envisioning some fantasy life, but I just thing is like your mind wandering maybe wishful thinking maybe sometimes they call daydreaming, but like I said, that makes it like, um, sound like silly and fanciful or that’s a word we, we could have a whole podcast.

We could have whole podcast called. Is that a word?

Hali: we’d have like sevens right now.

Dana: Is that a word? Did I use that rock? Could be

I mean, Visualizing is that daydreaming? I mean, it could be, I mean, cuz you can intentionally visualize, but also I think when we talk about a lot of this stuff and the energy of things and using emotional energy to manifest things in your outer reality, you could say daydreaming could be a component of that because,

I think it’s Abraham Hicks says, you know, by looking at what is, that’s not necessarily gonna help you because you’re quote unquote reality around you is not always gonna help you, but imagining or, you know, quote unquote daydreaming about what it is you would like it to be.

Or, I mean, let’s say when you’re you said you were looking at earlier this week possible honeymoon locations.

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: I mean, there might have been an element of daydreaming in that, correct. You’re kind of picturing yourself there thinking about, oh, what would it really be like? It’d be really nice to be here.

Be there. It’s kind of daydreaming,

Hali: mean, I guess kind of,

Dana: Yeah. What I mean, you don’t,

Hali: well, I guess maybe like the definition or whatever daydreaming I have is. Anytime, like in a movie they’re like daydreaming and then they get like snapped back or whatever. So it’s like this whole like actual lost in face. And I don’t know if I just,

Dana: that were the case.

Hali: it.

Dana: I think you’re

Hali: well, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, maybe I’m just doing it so much that I don’t realize it.

Dana: it’s your natural state.

Hali: My brain does kind of just wonder,

Dana: Yeah, maybe you are.

Hali: I really have to focus when we’re recording,

Dana: God knows. Yeah. I know. Sometimes they’re like, is she really listening? Uhhuh mm-hmm

Hali: but then sometimes I’ll get stuck on a thought and then I’m like, no, I have to pay attention. Shouldn’t

Dana: So maybe, maybe you are just stay dreaming. You just don’t know it.

Hali: It’s just more of my natural state.

Dana: What about nighttime dreaming? Do you feel like you dream?

Hali: Mm-hmm

Dana: No. You don’t have memory?

Hali: Nope. I’ve had, well, I’ve had more dreams recently that are like wedding stress dreams, but they’re like the same combination of things,

Dana: Yeah.

Hali: but I don’t really remember my dreams.

Dana: Hm. I feel like for some reason I’m the only one in the family that seems to remember dreams. Your dad’s always like no, Ian says, no, I haven’t asked Lakeland. Maybe she does a lot of people.

I know don’t re remember dreams. I mean, and that’s the other thing your dad has this perception that, um, I literally see everything in my head, like pictures and, and understanding things and dreams.

I’m like, no, they’re just, most of the dreams you remember are really just fragments. And they’re also just feelings almost. It’s more of what the feeling it was carrying. Cuz I’ll wake up with a certain feeling and there might have like one or two mental images attached to it, but then, you know, the harder you try to find it, it’s like, no it’s gone.

It’s

Hali: and it’s like, if you, if you do remember it something, as soon as you wake up, if you like don’t ponder on it, it’s just gone. And you’d be like, I think I had a

Dana: So quickly. Yeah. I mean, so quickly, it’s just whew. Gone, but you know, which brings us to what we’re talking about today, which is the Ajna center. We are approaching the last of the thanks. getting my, getting my podcasting legs under me here. The Ajna center, which we often relate to as the mind, which we did, like we said, the head center before.

Butwhen we’re talking about the Ajna we’re really, or the mind, I should say, we’re really talking essentially about the head and the Ajna functioning together. because even if you have defined undefined, I mean, we all have a brain. We all have a mind, you know, we are talking about energy centers here and how they, they function, but they do sort of work in tandem, obviously.

And so when we talked about the head last week, we talked about how it was this connection point to, to source or Gus, you know, God source universe and good universe

Hali: God.

Dana: I just mumbled that. And I can’t wait to see what that looks like in the transcription.

Hali: I said,

Dana: Aho is like a different form of unicorn. It’s a unicorn.

Hali: I said, universe.

Dana: also, because this week is the Ajna center. How many times I’ll have to correct that word? I put it in the glossary as a term, but we’ll see if it follows, but the Ajna is the processing hub. Basically that takes all that information, the questioning, the ideas, the inspiration from the head center and takes all that stuff.

And basically. Reviews researches and tries to, it’s like an interpreter basically, of what the information that’s coming in. It’s trying to like make sense of it. And so it is really that center of conceptualizing, you know, thinking is literally your mental processing is how you do it lives in the Ajna center and this mental, center, it’s more mental it’s the thinking is pretty much, what dominates our world right now is using all of our mental processing to try to make sense of stuff.

Hali: Yeah, we’re doing a great job of it.

Dana: Yeah. Yeah. It’s trying to, I mean, it rules our lives and you know, our perception of ourselves and everything around us. You know, it’s shifting it’s a good, I mean, it’s a good thing. You, the mind has a lot of the Ajna the mind has a lot of really good use. Obviously it’s gotten us to where we are in the sense that, you know, we have, you know, we’ve, it is an awareness center.

We move from that splenic, instinctual body awareness. And we move to this more mental awareness, which is more dominant or not more dominant, it’s a little stronger than the splenic awareness, but it’s the mind, the mind, like I said, when it’s trusted or valued for what it’s designed for, which is to like review, you know, all over, it’s good, but it’s not good for making decisions in your life, which we’re gonna talk about in a minute.

Biologically, I know you like this part,

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: the Ajna, uh, correlates to the neocortex. And visual cortex and the pituitary

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: go ahead. Say pituitary for me. Yeah. It’s one of those tricky words, which the, pituitary glands basically send information, gather to the, uh, the hormonal information to the thyroids, which then helps regulate the, the endocrine system, all that stuff that helps us keep my own track alive and all that other stuff.

So that’s the pituitary.

Hali: all that, all that non unnecessary stuff.

Dana: Well, you can see where my interest truly lies, which is in energy. And yeah, the more spiritual side of us than our actual, like physical bodies, but they’re important. They’re important. But

Hali: keep us alive

Dana: they do. I mean, without it, we’re not here without our bodies, we are literally not here. So

Hali: true statement.

Dana: they keep us anchored in this world at least for now.

And it is pouring, raining outside right now.

Hali: It is not raining here yet, but it’s pretty dark.

Dana: Yeah, it’s pouring, which is nice. I love a rainy rainy evening anyways. So, as I said, Ajna is that as an awareness center. And I also said this flee is an awareness center. Do you know what the other one is?

Hali: the solar plexus.

Dana: Yay. Ooh, I haven’t given you a gold star in a while. there you go. You get one, right? So we had this splenic awareness, instinctive body awareness in the moment. We also, which this is then the mental awareness of the Ajna is twice as strong as the splenic awareness is why it’s we became these more mental creatures, you know, the energy’s strong there, and it’s still forming as an awareness center, the solar plexus, because we are moving from this heavily mental awareness of making decisions and how we do things moving towards the solar plexus, more, the mutation that occurred back in 1781.

When it split. working all this time and this culmination is building and I think into this more emotional awareness and they say that emotional awareness is twice as strong as the mental awareness. So it’s like dominant. Yeah. We’re moving to that dominant awareness center, but we’re very much operating from this mental awareness, which is really interesting because when you look at the whole, how much things have changed, even in your lifetime, that you’re not aware, cuz you know, you were little but 20 years, you know, 20, 30 years that, um, especially the last 20 years, how much has come to the forefront of what.

People are accepting as normal. I mean, you hear, you start hearing about in business, the emotional intelligence, you know, your EQ, um, people being more aware of how they’re feeling and their wellbeing being more of a marker people following their heart, following their desires, doing things, instead of

Hali: more mental health stuff.

Dana: well, yeah, but I mean, moving to moving away from reasoning and logic, because you know, we use that for so long, which is important.

You know, it definitely has its place, but you know, they say as we move closer to 20, 27, this other mutation that’s supposed to happen in our energy centers.. I think around this, people are much more aware of how they’re feeling and how they want to feel.

And kind of learning to use the mind as it should be as a tool, as you know, something that helps you in the process, but ultimately you have to do what feels best for you, which is also what we’re doing here in the first place on this podcast is trying to teach people about this stuff so that they can start tuning into that awareness more and know what’s right for them.

And, you know, learning to trust yourself more. And that’s where we’re moving. But I think we’ve also seen in the system is like there’s value in things that have been learned and that, um, we just move forward, but it doesn’t have to throw everything else. So , we’re always gonna use our minds. I mean, that’s what makes us human, I think is, you know,

Hali: It is interesting that moving, like, like you said, from the spleen to the mind, it was two times the mind was two times stronger and then transitioning to the solar plexus It’s gonna be

Dana: gonna be even stronger. Yeah. Yeah.

Hali: Poor. Spleen’s just getting knocked down.

Dana: Well, they said I was doing some, I think it was in the original Human Design book, you know, that it shows you how fragile that splenic awareness is and how easy it is for us to, since that mind does have dominance more over that, um, how easy it easy it is for us to override those signals that we get from our spleen center.

You know, it’s there to tell us in the moment speaks once, you know, this is what’s best for you right now. And we’ve really learned to like, override that ,

Hali: It’s not paying attention.

Dana: right. We all get those impulses, but I mean, Okay. 20, 20, 25 years ago, if you tried to tell people you had an intuitive hit

Hali: They would’ve

Dana: even if you do it now.

Yeah. In some circles, you do that now. And they’re like, oh, you’re too. Woo. Woo. I

Hali: full of shit.

Dana: yeah. We believe in all this other, you know, and there’s no credence to it, but that’s basically what that awareness center is, is that intuitive awareness that we definitely have downgraded as a society thinking the mind knows more, which does not, which this was a visual component.

You see how I just scrunched up my face? say the mind knows more. No, it does. Trust me. I’m in my head a lot. I’m hap I’m comfortable up there, but it’s not always good for me. So, so basically, like I said, this, the Ajna the awareness center is. Basically pressured from the head center, right. With all that information coming through to take all that, like you said, all the ideas inspirations, turn it into, you know, thoughts, concepts, and then try to express them through language and throat.

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: So obviously it sits between the head center and the throat center. And so it also notes that this awareness center, the head, I mean, the Asha is not connected and cannot be connected directly to a motor because like the spleen can connect to the, to the root or to the SAC roll and same with solar

Hali: The Ajna can only go to the throat

Dana: or the head.

Hali: by the head. Yeah.

Dana: Yeah. So that means that those other two awareness centers are able to act on their awareness. Whereas this one, not there’s no action here. this is very important.

Hali: it says no.

Dana: No action here. Right? So,

Hali: we use it all for all the action.

Dana: mm-hmm that’s right. And so I say the awareness from the spleen is that in the moment decision making, they say solar plexus is more clarity over time, you know, there’s a waves and you, and then the Ajna is the mental awareness that operates over all time, which was hard for me to wrap my Ajna round at first but it says that a decision made mentally has a long life and can be mulled over until death.

Which I take it to mean what it means is this is where beliefs are formed. So, like I said in, Abraham Hicks, always saying a belief is just a thought that you continue to think. And so the Ajna is also where all these everything gets filtered through the Ajna basically, because that’s, that’s what it does.

It’s your thoughts is how you think. And so that awareness is when it says over time is that if you keep, over and over and over again, that’s what it does. . And so, also when you make, if you try to make a decision based on what your mind says, It’s basically a, this or that kind of thing.

It’s always, as soon as you choose option a, it says, well, what about option B? Or what about option C whenever you’re like, that’s it, that’s what I’m gonna do. And if you haven’t checked in with your strategy authority, your body, and you’re like, this is it. And then you’re like, I mean, I think we’re all familiar with second guessing.

That is basically what it does, right?

Hali: Mm-hmm

Dana: Mm-hmm yeah, because remember this is conceptualizing it’s research and review and what is review, you know, it’s like weighing both sides of an argument.

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: That’s what it’s there for it’s to analyze, do all these things. And like I said, it can tell you something is good because, uh, you know, it can give you a pro con list all day long

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: pros and cons, it can always give you reasons for why something’s good. It can give you reasons for why something’s bad, but it doesn’t really have

Hali: It may not be true.

Dana: Right,

Hali: It’s just what you think

Dana: Yeah.

Hali: good or bad about it.

Dana: Yeah. It’s, it’s thinking it’s interpreting answers as opinion and concepts and theories. And so I said, it cannot be the authority in your life.

And you might, I do wanna say that when you’re talking about authority in the Human Design, you know, there are people, mental project, mental projectors, who are people that only have definition head. Ajna nothing below that still doesn’t mean the mind makes the decision for them. They are designed to speak out loud to mu over to talk to someone else as a, a sounding board. Not to get advice from people, but they’re designed to basically get those ideas, thoughts, concepts out of the mind, out into the world, and then they can kind of feel into it more of what it is they, they need to do to make a decision.

Does that make sense? It’s still not the Ajna is still not making the decision for them. It is just when they can hear it spoken and reflected back to them when people can say, oh, well, this is what I’m hearing you saying. So you think this blah, blah, blah. And then it helps ’em gain clarity over their

Hali: And then they, instead of using the mind still, it’s more of listening to what else your body says

Dana: Yeah. And being able to hear out loud what it is that you’ve been mulling around in your brain,

Hali: and then you’re like, well, that’s not quite what I was meaning. And then you’re like, is that really.

Dana: Yeah. And so like, you’re, you know, I was a lucky splenic projector because you do have that, that everyday, um, advantage of having that extra instinct, intuitive awareness of helping you make those smaller decisions in life, but still most projectors need to talk things out anyhow with trusted people to hear what they have to say.

Okay, so let’s, let’s just move on. So the defined Ajna center that is 47% of the population

Hali: Oh,

Dana: mm-hmm that’s you and I we’re both defined you’re defined, right? Yeah. Cause you’ve defined it in Ajna.

Hali: I do.

Dana: So a defined Ajna obviously can be defined, either through the head or the throat or. You are defined through the head, I’m defined through the throat.

So we do have a different configuration there of how it works. And so those with defined Ajna centers pretty much think and conceptualize in the more consistent way all the time.

Like we have a certain particular way of processing information. It’s gonna wanna come out one or, um, and it’s not just one way, but it’s, we can be more

Hali: It’s more set ways.

Dana: Yeah. Yeah. There’ll be a way you more, prefer to look at things like my definition comes through the 43, 23 to the throat, but the, I have also gate four, which reads, um, hanging gate

Hali: mm-hmm

Dana: and it’s part of the logic circuit. It’s. And so I do tend to, I do kind of have this, um, struggle a lot of times between the knowingness of the 43, 23 and the logic , the logic wants to dominate all the time.

It wants to like make logical sense of things, but, or I’ll have a knowingness and I can just feel it. And I know it, but my, my four wants to always

Hali: It’s like, why, how do you know this?

Dana: Right. What does it mean? How did you yeah. Oh yeah. Logic for sure. That’s how it can conflict, I guess. And for you? I can’t believe I don’t have you pulled up

Hali: I always pull my graph up. It also helps when you’re talking about things for me to see it.

Dana: And because mine is connected to the throat, I am I designed to, to speak what’s on my mind, whereas yours. it’s harder for you at times to get out what’s outta your head. and

Hali: all the time.

Dana: Yeah. You, you definitely probably need some help with those around you to help get those thoughts out.

Hali: yeah. And being around Ian makes it worse. Cause I’m, I’m usually trying to get out a joke or something that we like both have, but I’m trying to get it out before he does. And then I just get my words all twisted. So then it doesn’t work.

Dana: Good luck because I think he has a defined throat, yes he does. Because he also has the 43-23. Yeah.

But you also have this mix of gates because you, you have that full channel. 64 47. We’re gonna go into all the gates here in a second. I say in a second, like it’s gonna happen in the next 10 seconds. I think we all know better by now. But you have, so the 47, which is a channel, so that’s the, you are more abstract thinker, maybe, you know, like we said, chunking pieces, you don’t always have the language for it.

Then you also have the 43, so there is some knowingness there, although you may not trust that knowingness because it is in your unconscious design side.

And then gate 17, which we’re gonna talk about that too, which is part of that logical, circuitry as well. So you, you, you have all aspects there of the sensing, the logical, you know, and the, the knowingness there. So no wonder your brain’s so busy and you don’t realize that you’re always using your brain, your,

Hali: always gone.

Dana: you’re mental faculties. but so with this defined Ajna means that, the defined Ajna tends to put pressure on undefined Ajna to, to think and to conceptualize and quite often influence the way other people think if they are, you know, definitely if they’re undefined there,

Hali: Hmm.

Dana: It’s funny because I have notes that I’m always referring to because I need to, as you’re probably always thinking processing it, whether you realize it or not so there you go. Hali maybe that’s your daydream. You don’t even realize you’re doing it.

Hali: probably, I’m just

Dana: mm-hmm if you have a defined Ajna it may be more difficult to meditate.

Not impossible because I certainly can, but It comes with a lot of non effort. I was gonna say, you know, to, when I meditate, you know, close your eyes, obviously.

Hali: Mm-hmm

Dana: I have to literally say I catch myself all the time thinking, I’ll say thinking, cuz I’ll realize, I’m thinking I do that all the time.

You try to clear your mind. And lately I’ve been listening to some brown noise, which is very soothing and I never know when there’s gonna be noise in the house and can be, it can be a lot easier to be distracted, but put those noise canceling headphones on and whew.

But the mind is always busy and I will realize, I am thinking and I will literally say in my head thinking, you’re thinking and it brings me back to be like, okay, you don’t have to just let it go because I know you said you have a hard time. Doing anything like that, right? You tried meditating

Hali: no, I, I say I want to, but then I never do.

Dana: mm-hmm well, I mean, meditation really is what we’re talking about. A lot of times it gets confused a lot, not confused, but kind of blended with mindfulness. And it’s definitely worth trying to incorporate at least just five minutes at the start of your day.

you said getting outta bed and you kind of like, if you try to remember a dream and it’s do something else is gone, but, where you start in the day with your mind carries with you for the rest of the day.  it’s a good way to put it.

So starting from a more centered place, you know, always helps, but people with defined Ajna with a lot of mental activity, especially if they’re head in Ajna could benefit from a mindfulness practice form of meditation, which, you know, movement, nature, anything that can more even journaling can be a form of that because it’s helping you to kind of slow down the thoughts or maybe just not trying to analyze and think let things drift, let things just kind of drift through your head.

Maybe you’re in a constant state of meditation.

Hali: I mean, I think sometimes when I’m falling asleep, uh, I do kind of just drift

Dana: those alpha waves

Hali: just, they just kind of like, I, I just go from one thought to the next, and then I have before, like, When I get to the, that end of that thought. And I realize like what I’ve been doing, I’m like, how did I get here?

And then I will go back through and

Dana: That helps you go to sleep? I think that would wake me up. I’d be like, oh, using my brain!

So no matter what defines your Ajna, people would define Ajna can be a little headstrong, have a little tendency to make decisions. Like we said, from the mind, which can lead to, really sometimes a lot of times of inadequacy or even hypocrisy.

If like what you say you’re, you can’t follow through on what you say. It’s like speaking when you shouldn’t speak your mind. but. I’ve learned, I’m learning that and you can become over-reliant on your mind and tend to waste a lot of energy obsessing about things that just, you know, a decision or anything.

And then you kind of get stuck in that mind space. And so, yeah, mind dominant here, but should not be like reliant on it. You’ve still got to let things go out of the mind. So with the undefined Ajna center, which then would be 50%, 53% population, um, interestingly enough, it’s pretty obvious, but if you have an undefined, a you’re gonna have an undefined head because you know, that’s how that works.

Hali: the head only connects to the Ajna.

Dana: That’s right. and then the Ajna does not connect to any motor. So that should tell you right there that anything happening in the mind is not to be acted on by itself.

So, if you have an undefined Ajna, you could still have defined gates, activated gates, you know, in the Ajna. And if you do, then those gates are gonna be more of a, um, the themes of those gates are gonna be more of a filter through which you do tend to, um, uh, how it’s gonna connect you, themes that for the way our mental activity is gonna connect us to people and who we interact with.

So obviously because a hanging gate, this electromagnetics, right. It’s gonna,

Hali: once it’s other half.

Dana: mm-hmm but it’s gonna be more of a filter. You can still be what they say. Undefined heads are more open-minded literally, you know, because they don’t have fixed ways of thinking they, but they may have when they connect with that energy sometimes or just when they are processing, it has a little more of a tendency to lean that way with those days.

But you know, those people completely open hands, completely open minds, which literally they’re very, very open-minded.

So it’s interesting because I think a lot of people that have opened Ajna can tend to feel, a certain sense of what, what would be the word. Because they’re not designed to really think in one specific way. And they’re very open minded. They can see everything from every angle. Like they’re not meant necessarily to retain all this information.

They don’t have a fixed way of doing things of thinking about things. So it’s also means it’s a little bit more difficult, I think, to create those patterns and those grooves of how you remember things like things move through you in your open centers. They’re designed that way. You reflect it back to others.

And so, you know where I’m going with this? I think,

Hali: I think so,

Dana: where am I going with this?

Hali: Daddy always says he can’t remember things.

Dana: I know, and these are highly creative minds. You know, these are the.

Hali: so creative.

Dana: Yeah, these are great, you know, thinkers. When you think about, you know, the real intellectuals and deep thinkers, you know, we’re talking about Freud and Jung and Einstein, you know, the undefined Ajna, they were allowed to, to look at things from all different angles and turn it over and see it in all different ways and be open to certain ideas and inspirations, you know, they are literally open-minded and that is their power there because that’s where they become wise about how we think and why we think and what we think, you know, that’s they do.

But yeah, your dad, I would try to tell ’em all the time, because that’s a big, uh, contention, bone of contention for him. Is that, or what he feels is his Achilles mind is he feels he has a weak

Hali: His Achille’s mind. Yeah.

Dana: That’s funny. His Achilles mind. Achilles heel, man. I was landing that point and then it , I messed it up, but he sees it as a weakness.

He thinks he has a weak mind because he’s, I think he’s also dyslexic and I, you know, there’s, I don’t have any science or, you know, I’m not a doctor, I’m not a psychologist.

I’m not on any, I only have my opinions about these things, but I think that, know, without having a lot of structure there in his mind, it was harder for him to retain information,

Hali: Mm-hmm

Dana: but it’s there, he just has so many different ways of thinking about things. But like you said, he is like so creative and he’s brilliant.

Like I always tell people all the time he’s he feels inadequate and I’m like, you’re like, this is the smartest person I know.

Hali: he could fix anything he could do just about anything.

He’s always,

Dana: see everything from every, like, that’s what makes him so good at building and fixing, he can see all the

Hali: He’ll come. If you’re, if you’re doing something, he’ll come in two seconds in, he’d be like, oh, I wouldn’t have done it that way. And you’re like, what other way? You’re like, I see one way to do it. What do you mean you do it a different way?

Dana: yeah, he does. Or I’ll just let you yeah. Let you do it. I just do it like that. Well,

Hali: I’ll let you, and then he says it

Dana: yeah, that’s so true. So, yeah. So then if you are undefined, like I said, you’re amplifying, reflecting back, you become wise in these areas. So you’re able to sift through all the different ways of seeing things, all the different possibilities and decide, what matters most. And you’re able to discern a lot of times what concepts and ideas have value and recognize, I mean, like I said, just look at these great thinkers who answered some of the great questions that we have pondered for forever.

You know, a lot of these people were open minded are people that can often pick up, you know, what’s happening in the group can pick up the thoughts and ideas from someone or in a group before they actually speak them aloud,which is also very true.

And, they say in children, they may have also been, or may have grown up with, which really seemed to come from nowhere, which they kind of did, you know, they just kind of pop in their head and they can have a bit of conditioning around this need to feel certain about things in order, you know, and trying to peer like trying to appear smart or fear looking stupid, or that you have to pretend to be certain about things.

Because, if you have a defined head, you have a, certain amount of certainty that you can with, I mean, Ajna sorry, because of how you are fixed in your thinking, but these are people, like I said, things are just always kind of popping in and out, and they’re not always certain, but they’re not designed to be certain, you know, they’re not designed to, to know the way to think about it.

So there’s, there can be a lot of, stigma there for these people, because if you had a child who had an undefined Ajna, which I do not, but I had a husband but if they had a parent who’s defined Ajna, that at the energetic level that parent’s thinking and process of thinking and how they do things is mentally pressuring the undefined Ajna at all times.

And so maybe the parent had a lot of logical dominance in their thinking, but this child may not. And they might think in a more abstract way or, you know, their mind might there was this pressure to always be logical. And so that you start to doubt how you think about things and what you think about things.

And, it really is important. I think, to see a lot of these things in your kids to understand how they’re meant to operate. So we don’t try to push them into operate in a different way. So, one note on. Well, when we talked about the undefined, I know I said it many times.

I probably said open, but undefined head means it’s a undefined center. You see, my eyes are closed. I’m trying to get it straight in my head. undefined, but you may have gates there, a completely open Ajna has no gates, no definition. And this can be even more, uh, challenging sometimes because it can be really, there is no like mental filter that things are going to get filtered through when there is, you know, connections or whatever.

And so, it, it can be a little more challenging because you are seeing every, every angle to everything. It can be hard to organize your thoughts because there’s no like, reliable, fixed way of looking at something. So it could leave them with maybe they might tend to have a little more anxiety around the whole mental process.

Well, there, you have it. Overview of the Asana center.

As I said, throwing the gates in here too, would just be a little too much to add into one episode, one, a. Break it up a little bit for you guys. So. Come back for our next episode when we’re going to walk through the gates of the Agena center and kind of bring it all together for you so thanks for listening

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